Comments on: Not alone out here in the uttermost parts… http://www.mywalkblog.com/2008/10/22/not-alone-out-here-in-the-uttermost-parts/ Destination: Father! Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:48:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Old Pete http://www.mywalkblog.com/2008/10/22/not-alone-out-here-in-the-uttermost-parts/comment-page-1/#comment-50 Old Pete Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:34:48 +0000 http://www.mywalkblog.com/?p=101#comment-50 I can't remember who suggested that the ultimate vision is to have no vision of your own. I may be getting close to that - maybe because I'm finding it difficult to remember what I have said and written in the past. On the other hand I recognise it's time for a fresh start but ... Jim Palmer has recently created a new Yahoo group - Shedding Religion. I made a post the other day - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sheddingreligion/message/151 I'd be interested in your thoughts. It's easy for someone who has never been in a leadership position within a church to question the place of 'church' and 'theology' or even the purpose of life - but I sense these questions need to be dealt with. Without a right foundation, how can anyone begin to preach the truth of the gospel message? I can’t remember who suggested that the ultimate vision is to have no vision of your own.

I may be getting close to that – maybe because I’m finding it difficult to remember what I have said and written in the past.

On the other hand I recognise it’s time for a fresh start but …

Jim Palmer has recently created a new Yahoo group – Shedding Religion.

I made a post the other day – http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sheddingreligion/message/151

I’d be interested in your thoughts.

It’s easy for someone who has never been in a leadership position within a church to question the place of ‘church’ and ‘theology’ or even the purpose of life – but I sense these questions need to be dealt with.

Without a right foundation, how can anyone begin to preach the truth of the gospel message?

]]> By: Mike Cady http://www.mywalkblog.com/2008/10/22/not-alone-out-here-in-the-uttermost-parts/comment-page-1/#comment-48 Mike Cady Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:47:37 +0000 http://www.mywalkblog.com/?p=101#comment-48 You know what is funny, Jenn (my wife) met a girl at the gym who used to attend church, and no longer does because of the pressure to be perfect, as well as the, if you don't go here then you're not "in." She said that she didn't like most church attenders. Jenn's response to her was "me either!" Her friend was very surprised, since she knew we attended a local church, but if Jesus was willing to accept the hurting, then we should too. Let's not spend all of our time persuading others to come to our church, but hope that they desire to be like Christ because of how we live our lives. The best example (good or bad) will be your own. Ray had a good post today that reminds us "as you go, make disciples" not while you are in a pew. You know what is funny, Jenn (my wife) met a girl at the gym who used to attend church, and no longer does because of the pressure to be perfect, as well as the, if you don’t go here then you’re not “in.” She said that she didn’t like most church attenders. Jenn’s response to her was “me either!” Her friend was very surprised, since she knew we attended a local church, but if Jesus was willing to accept the hurting, then we should too. Let’s not spend all of our time persuading others to come to our church, but hope that they desire to be like Christ because of how we live our lives. The best example (good or bad) will be your own. Ray had a good post today that reminds us “as you go, make disciples” not while you are in a pew.

]]> By: Old Pete http://www.mywalkblog.com/2008/10/22/not-alone-out-here-in-the-uttermost-parts/comment-page-1/#comment-47 Old Pete Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:26:18 +0000 http://www.mywalkblog.com/?p=101#comment-47 I've just linked to your site after looking at Jim Palmer's site. I've been on this journey outside the four walls of traditional Christianity for some 40 years. I met Dale and Felicity Dale in London in 2000 and I started reading "So you don't want to go to church anymore" when Wayne Jacobsen and his friend had only written the first three chapters. I have also seen your link to Spirited Exchanges. They say that there is a book inside each of us - but I've created a web site instead that is basically a reflection of my journey of life - especially since 1995 when I was forced into the position of reconsidering just about everything I had ever believed. I'm about to reply to Jim's question. Am I a Christian? It depends on your definition. One of the major influences on my thinking was an article entitled "The Rise and Fall of Christendom" by Stuart Murray where he gives a controversial definition of Christendom (you will be able to find it on my web site) I haven't actually been faced with the situation, but I like to think of someone saying "I don't believe in God". I'd like to be able to respond, "Tell me something about this God you don't believe in. Maybe I don't believe in him either" I'll come back to your blog later - I'd love to share some of your journey. Pete I’ve just linked to your site after looking at Jim Palmer’s site.

I’ve been on this journey outside the four walls of traditional Christianity for some 40 years.

I met Dale and Felicity Dale in London in 2000 and I started reading “So you don’t want to go to church anymore” when Wayne Jacobsen and his friend had only written the first three chapters.

I have also seen your link to Spirited Exchanges.

They say that there is a book inside each of us – but I’ve created a web site instead that is basically a reflection of my journey of life – especially since 1995 when I was forced into the position of reconsidering just about everything I had ever believed.

I’m about to reply to Jim’s question.

Am I a Christian? It depends on your definition. One of the major influences on my thinking was an article entitled “The Rise and Fall of Christendom” by Stuart Murray where he gives a controversial definition of Christendom (you will be able to find it on my web site)

I haven’t actually been faced with the situation, but I like to think of someone saying “I don’t believe in God”. I’d like to be able to respond, “Tell me something about this God you don’t believe in. Maybe I don’t believe in him either”

I’ll come back to your blog later – I’d love to share some of your journey.

Pete

]]> By: Don Rogers http://www.mywalkblog.com/2008/10/22/not-alone-out-here-in-the-uttermost-parts/comment-page-1/#comment-46 Don Rogers Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:29:50 +0000 http://www.mywalkblog.com/?p=101#comment-46 There are many, many of US out there walking around on a journey. Some thinking they are doing it alone. They and you are not alone. There are many, many of US out there walking around on a journey. Some thinking they are doing it alone. They and you are not alone.

]]> By: Ray http://www.mywalkblog.com/2008/10/22/not-alone-out-here-in-the-uttermost-parts/comment-page-1/#comment-45 Ray Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:21:56 +0000 http://www.mywalkblog.com/?p=101#comment-45 Ahhh.....Freash Air! I can finally breath, and therefore LIVE!!! Ahhh…..Freash Air! I can finally breath, and therefore LIVE!!!

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